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    40 Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 08:41:28 +0200 
    41 From: "Adrian Egli OpenSceneGraph (3D)" <3dhelp@gmail.com> 
    42 To: "OpenSceneGraph Users" <osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org> 
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    55 Subject: Re: [osg-users] Too much support!!!!! 
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    82 Hi all, 
    83  
    84 Robert thank you very much for your effort in the openscenegraph project, 
    85 and for it's really high quality.it's a really great scene graph. I am 
    86 wondering how you manage a family, openscenegraph free services (forum), and 
    87 openscenegraph professional services. respect. 
    88  
    89 so the problem is quite complicated, i don't think that we need an other 
    90 mailing-list, forum concept. osg-users, osg-submissions,... are enought, but 
    91 what we should care about is that we should support robert 
    92 in answering the mailing list of osg-users, also me included, i often read 
    93 the question, but i rarely answer the topics. many of the question in 
    94 osg-users aren't so complicated to answer, even we are not as expiered as 
    95 robert is, but we all have enough expierence to support "younger" osg users 
    96 in a fast uncomplicated way. if you have a look at the last 100 posts, it's 
    97 mostly robert who answered some "stupid" questions, but we should support 
    98 him. 
    99  
    100 I feel that robert should be our senior "supporter" / reviewer and for 
    101 strategy question our responsable contact. so may in the future robert 
    102 should get some other guys to support him in answering questions in 
    103 osg-users. more complicated ones, we can also discuss with robert. because 
    104 robert so really important for this project and we need him for reviews of 
    105 new features (submissions). 
    106  
    107 Another important danger in this project is, what happens when something 
    108 happens to robert (burn out, new business,..., ...) and his don't longer 
    109 have  time  to spend as many time as he spend for the moment? is there in 
    110 the big world an university, ... , who could support robert in reviewing, .. 
    111 , .. to insure that in the worst case robert's life project never ends? 
    112  
    113 i like openscenegraph and its concept. 
    114  
    115 for all enjoy it,.... 
    116  
    117 adrian 
    118  
    119 personal things : unfort i can not spend more time, unfort the 3d business 
    120 is not so big in my country :-( but i try to work on and on ... even beside 
    121 other projects :-) have fun. 
    122  
    123 2008/5/27 Paul Speed <pspeed@progeeks.com>: 
    124  
    125 > 
    126 > 
    127 > Robert Osfield wrote: 
    128 > 
    129 >> On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Paul Melis <paul@science.uva.nl> wrote: 
    130 >> 
    131 >>> So... can we please keep suggestions very simple and non intrusive to 
    132 >>>> any ones current work schedules.  Once things are on a more even keel 
    133 >>>> work wise then it's a good time to dive into other complex topics. 
    134 >>>> 
    135 >>>>  I'm not sure "very simple and non intrusive" is going to cut it, as 
    136 >>> that 
    137 >>> might not make much (enough) of a difference. 
    138 >>> I'm not being negative here, just realistic (I think). 
    139 >>> 
    140 >> 
    141 >> Like people answering support questions on osg-users a bit more 
    142 >> promptly than usual, not leaving them for me to go chase up because 
    143 >> it's fallen through the cracks.  Not hassling me with discussions that 
    144 >> don't need to happen now. 
    145 >> 
    146 > 
    147 > And with all due respect (and there are tons of respect for you), I think 
    148 > this is a two way street almost... you are in a different time zone than 
    149 > some of us.  So let the stuff sit for more hours before you jump in. :) 
    150 > 
    151 > Personally, I've been following this list since 2002 or so.  I'm amazed at 
    152 > the current level of support provided by the rest of the members when they 
    153 > are forced to do so (because you are on vacation or recuperating, etc.) 
    154 > 
    155 > Being the type myself, I know the draw to jumping into the fray and 
    156 > answering the questions (I'm that way on my own projects and at my day job) 
    157 > but it isn't always the most effective in the long run. 
    158 > 
    159 > -Paul (not one of the normal Pauls who post.:) ) 
    160 > 
    161 > 
    162 > _______________________________________________ 
    163 > osg-users mailing list 
    164 > osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org 
    165 > http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org 
    166 > 
    167  
    168  
    169  
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    171 ******************************************** 
    172 Adrian Egli 
    173  
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    179 Hi all, <br><br>Robert thank you very much for your effort in the openscenegraph project, and for it&#39;s really high <a href="http://quality.it">quality.it</a>&#39;s a really great scene graph. I am wondering how you manage a family, openscenegraph free services (forum), and openscenegraph professional services. respect. <br> 
    180  
    181 <br>so the problem is quite complicated, i don&#39;t think that we need an other mailing-list, forum concept. osg-users, osg-submissions,... are enought, but what we should care about is that we should support robert <br> 
    182 in answering the mailing list of osg-users, also me included, i often read the question, but i rarely answer the topics. many of the question in osg-users aren&#39;t so complicated to answer, even we are not as expiered as robert is, but we all have enough expierence to support &quot;younger&quot; osg users in a fast uncomplicated way. if you have a look at the last 100 posts, it&#39;s mostly robert who answered some &quot;stupid&quot; questions, but we should support him. <br> 
    183 <br>I feel that robert should be our senior &quot;supporter&quot; / reviewer and for strategy question our responsable contact. so may in the future robert should get some other guys to support him in answering questions in osg-users. more complicated ones, we can also discuss with robert. because robert so really important for this project and we need him for reviews of new features (submissions). <br> 
    184 <br>Another important danger in this project is, what happens when something happens to robert (burn out, new business,..., ...) and his don&#39;t longer have&nbsp; time&nbsp; to spend as many time as he spend for the moment? is there in the big world an university, ... , who could support robert in reviewing, .. , .. to insure that in the worst case robert&#39;s life project never ends? <br> 
    185  
    186 <br>i like openscenegraph and its concept. <br><br>for all enjoy it,....<br><br>adrian <br><br>personal things : unfort i can not spend more time, unfort the 3d business is not so big in my country :-( but i try to work on and on ... even beside other projects :-) have fun. <br> 
    187 <br><div class="gmail_quote">2008/5/27 Paul Speed &lt;<a href="mailto:pspeed@progeeks.com">pspeed@progeeks.com</a>&gt;:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> 
    188 <div class="Ih2E3d"><br> 
    189  
    190 <br> 
    191 Robert Osfield wrote:<br> 
    192 <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> 
    193 On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Paul Melis &lt;<a href="mailto:paul@science.uva.nl" target="_blank">paul@science.uva.nl</a>&gt; wrote:<br> 
    194 <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> 
    195  
    196 So... can we please keep suggestions very simple and non intrusive to<br> 
    197 any ones current work schedules. &nbsp;Once things are on a more even keel<br> 
    198 work wise then it&#39;s a good time to dive into other complex topics.<br> 
    199 <br> 
    200 </blockquote> 
    201 I&#39;m not sure &quot;very simple and non intrusive&quot; is going to cut it, as that<br> 
    202 might not make much (enough) of a difference.<br> 
    203 I&#39;m not being negative here, just realistic (I think).<br> 
    204  
    205 </blockquote> 
    206 <br> 
    207 Like people answering support questions on osg-users a bit more<br> 
    208 promptly than usual, not leaving them for me to go chase up because<br> 
    209 it&#39;s fallen through the cracks. &nbsp;Not hassling me with discussions that<br> 
    210 don&#39;t need to happen now.<br> 
    211 </blockquote> 
    212 <br></div> 
    213 And with all due respect (and there are tons of respect for you), I think this is a two way street almost... you are in a different time zone than some of us. &nbsp;So let the stuff sit for more hours before you jump in. :)<br> 
    214  
    215 <br> 
    216 Personally, I&#39;ve been following this list since 2002 or so. &nbsp;I&#39;m amazed at the current level of support provided by the rest of the members when they are forced to do so (because you are on vacation or recuperating, etc.)<br> 
    217  
    218 <br> 
    219 Being the type myself, I know the draw to jumping into the fray and answering the questions (I&#39;m that way on my own projects and at my day job) but it isn&#39;t always the most effective in the long run.<br> 
    220 <br> 
    221 -Paul (not one of the normal Pauls who post.:) )<div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><br> 
    222 <br> 
    223 _______________________________________________<br> 
    224 osg-users mailing list<br> 
    225 <a href="mailto:osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org" target="_blank">osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org</a><br> 
    226 <a href="http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org" target="_blank">http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org</a><br> 
    227  
    228 </div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>********************************************<br>Adrian Egli 
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